As I read the article on Quest to Learn, I'm reminded of something I've been learning the last few years, and this article keeps circling around. The difference between schools and games isn't even that it's more fun to play games. It's the relevancy. Games are relevant to kids; they're like real life. You're solving problems and applying information to life-like situations. In school, you're listening to a lecture, or reading a sterile text from a textbook. These activities are not even remotely relevant to kids, if they ever were. However, when teachers go the extra mile, and design real-life problems for their students to solve, they gain the relevancy factor, and students realize their work really does have meaning and purpose. All without the use of "fun" games.
For example, the brilliant idea of the Studio Schools. Putting students' minds to work on real, actual problems in the real world, requiring them to learn new knowledge and skills while applying them, and finding that not only are students motivated to succeed in that environment, but they do fantastically. That test scores of students previously in the lower percentiles rose to the top quartile - that's impressive, and I don't know of another school system, or even teacher, that can boast that kind of improvement. Furthermore, it's preparing students for life after school in a way most schools do not today. They leave their Studio School with not just a high school diploma, but real work experience, that they can use to help them find a job, or provide relevancy to their college work.
While Hirsch did have many things to say that I agreed with, for the most part, he seemed outdated, to me. Whenever I get a reading that is more than 20 years old, I have to ask: How relevant is it now? And I found that the vocational curriculum that Hirsch was complaining about is the same vocational curriculum (like shop, small engine repair, jewelry making) that my parents had access to, and I never did. In fact, just the other day, my husband and I were lamenting that those classes are no longer offered. If nothing else, I'm sure they kept a number of students in school, who otherwise saw no reason to stay. While my mother would have stayed, whether or not she got to make a bunch of pretty bracelets (which I still have!), there are, and were, a lot of kids that without something obviously useful, find no reason to attend.
I do have to admit that I immediately looked up Tales of Shakespeare and Adventures of Ulysses, and found them available on Amazon, much to my delight. Personally, I love the classics, and hope that my children will, too, and perhaps these children's books will help foster that love. However, I am not going to require my children read them. If they really only want to read The Babysitter's Club or The Black Stallion, then I believe intelligent conversations about the books, the problems and issues that are raised and solved, can help discover other interests. Perhaps they will lead to the classics, or maybe they lead to something completely different.
I particularly liked Hirsch's last paragraph, about the dichotomy in education between skills and knowledge. It's one thing that I learned in one of the courses I took about teaching science: that the knowledge and facts of science are inseparable from the skills of how to do science. Actually, I'm sure without meaning to, Hirsch just argued for Dewey and the way he advocated children learning by doing. In learning by doing, you are not trying to separate the knowledge from the skills, but rather, you're developing them both concurrently and also learning how they are connected.
Considering their focus on applicable skills and work experience, I have a feeling that Hirsch would have major problems with both Quest to Learn and the Studio Schools. It seems to me that the Studio Schools are taking those vocational classes that Hirsch had such issue with, and creating a school around them. As for Quest to Learn, it is centered around technology and real problems, rather than the classics or his "extensive curriculum."
While the idea of an "extensive curriculum" that all children would know of their culture sounds appealing, at least in theory, I do not see a way possible to decide what all that should entail. Perhaps Hirsch has some ideas in some of his books you mentioned in the introduction. To me, it seems that the most efficient and effective way to accomplish this, is not through specified readings or anything else, but in conversations with others. When children talk to adults, they absorb a lot of information as well as the culture, and are constantly asking why. Perhaps what is needed is for children to have more interactions with a variety of educated adults that treat them as equals, and give their "why" questions the time, thought, and consideration they deserve. I'm not trying to insinuate that current teachers do not do this, but they have 25-30 students in their classroom, and so much curriculum they're required to get through. In contrast, many parents that I know do not spend this time with their children, and perhaps that makes the difference.
I know that when I have children, I will be homeschooling them, and we'll start as soon as they are able to talk. Talking with them, about current or past events or issues, and holding in-depth conversations with each other in front of our children. Our children will be enrolled in a variety of activities in which they are encouraged to hold conversations with educated adults. Combine these discussions with reading a variety of sources, and I feel our children will receive an excellent cultural education. We receive our local newspaper on a weekly basis, and usually read at least some of it. When we have kids, we will likely read even more of it. In addition, I plan to take our kids up to our local library every week, for them to pick new books to read. This should provide Hirsch's "extensive curriculum," while in-depth studies my children undertake, based on their own interests, will provide both Hirsch's "intensive curriculum" as well as satisfy Dewey's focus on the child's interests and tendencies.
I greatly enjoyed reading the Siskin chapter, which surprised me, because I was expecting something as dry and outdated as Hirsch. Instead, I found myself reading a modern piece that had me constantly nodding my head and saying "well, yes, of course." As a music teacher, I found this piece exceptionally relevant and applicable, but at the same time scary. While I could understand their actions, the teachers in Kentucky that banded together and got music on the standardized tests really made me feel uncomfortable. They did to music exactly what had already been done to the "core" subjects: they took something that was inherently exciting, dynamic, interesting, valid, and intoxicating, and transformed it into something that could be regurgitated onto a multiple-guess test. They killed it. It's no wonder to me that I've never enjoyed history, since I've only had one, maybe two teachers, that ever made it anything more than something to be tested on. But I've very seldom taken a test on music. Sure, I had "scale tests" in high school, and I took a semester of college theory, but those were after years and years of music for music's sake, educated by private violin teachers like myself.
One of my favorite times to teach my students is after they have mastered the basic skills, and we're getting ready for a performance. I ask them, "what's the point of music? Why do you play violin?" Usually they answer something along the lines of "I like it," or occasionally "my parents say it's good for me." That's when I get to ask them if they've ever heard that music is the universal language, and tell them about when I was a kid, playing a Bruch violin concerto for a bunch of other students. I had this elaborate story worked out, and I bring out a little book I put together. The first page has a picture I drew, with color coded words that correlate to parts of the piece. I tell them about my story I created for just the first page of this piece: there's a sunrise, and a forest, but then there's a thunder and lightning storm, and a fire, and all the woodland creatures are running for cover. And I flip through the rest of the book, which is comprised of the drawings the other students did for what they thought my piece was about, with no knowledge of my story. Pictures of thunder and lightning storms, funerals, wildfires with animals fleeing for cover, and even a castle. And I get to introduce the concept of putting the music into music - more than just the notes, rhythms, and bowings. The part that trying to create a standardized test to test EVERY student with, is guaranteed to leave out.
I thought I would look for links related to music standards, and I found several. The National Association for Music Education has some very advanced standards, that I know are not considered required for every student. However, personally, I see no reason why they shouldn't be, and my kids will definitely be able to meet these standards. There is also a very interesting website, musicstandards.org, that details all of the music standards for all 50 states. What I found to be particularly interesting were Washington's music standards (since I'm in WA), and apparently, "the arts—including dance, music, theater, and visual arts—are defined as
core content areas in Washington’s definition of basic education," and furthermore, are supposed to be "core academic subject areas" under federal law. This assertion does not coincide with my own experiences and observations, as well as those examined in Siskin's article. Finally, I found the American String Teacher's Association and all of their standards. They have ASTACAP - ASTA Certificate Advancement Program - in which they detail standards for all major stringed instruments, from beginner through very advanced. They also have a number of books, particularly their String Syllabus, Vol. 1, 2009 Edition (towards bottom of page). These resources, available to anyone, are invaluable to string teachers, and should be used by everyone deciding music standards.
This Washington Post article makes different points than what I have, but has the same overall message: national standards and testing is screwed up, and it's screwing up our entire education system. National high-stakes testing has forced teachers to teach to that test, which has reduced our education system to a mad scramble to "pass a test." It's turned amazing teachers that could do so much, into people that are struggling to keep their jobs because not all kids are the same, but our system expects them to be. I think it's a crime that we try so hard to make every child the same, when it is their differences that makes them so great, and has made our country great.
I may be biased, but ultimately, I feel that the Studio Schools and music teachers have a much better way of holding students, teachers and schools accountable, than standardized tests. All those tests can tell is if you were good at taking that kind of a test that particular day, but there's so much more to any subject. For subjects where product-based accountability like what is found in the fine arts and the Studio Schools isn't possible, I don't think there should be any real effort to hold anyone accountable. I've thought for a couple of years now, that if we just let teachers do their thing, and gave them the reins, they could do some truly amazing things with their students. But politicians and lawmakers keep sticking their noses in, telling teachers what, when, how, and why they should teach different topics. What would be better is let education be more like the free market we have with capitalism. The teachers and schools that are successful will attract more students, and so would become more successful. Everyone has different ideas of what makes a success, so different teachers and schools would attract the students that were interested in their kind of success.
Ashley,
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed your thoughts on what schools should teach and how should they be held accountable. Your quote at the beginning of your response stated “The difference between schools and games isn't even that it's more fun to play games. It's the relevancy.” I tend to disagree with this statement slightly. I feel as if it is our goal as teachers to make the curriculum we are expected to teach relevant to our student’s life. But I do agree that with some of the curriculum that we are supposed to teach might not be relatable to their lives.
I also agree that introducing studio schools is a brilliant idea so that students can see the link between their future and their schooling. I am a firm believer that students should get to understand what potential jobs can be like and learn to attain the skills necessary for the job. I also think that students need to understand what it is like to finance money, pay bills and even do taxes. These are the relevant things in life that I wish I had been taught before just going out into the “real world.” My high school offered vocational school to students who were interested in certain fields and they could go to school in the mornings and then go to their vocational program of study in the afternoon for a grade. I think that was a stepping stone to studio schools. The only downfall was that vocational school was limited to a small number of hands on type jobs. If Hirsch had ideas about vocational schools back then, don’t you think that he would be open to the studio schools now?
It is sad that many parents these days do not get to have conversations with their students, like you said. Times have changed and it is not easy to have only one parent working and being the bread winner nowadays. In most cases either both parents work or both parents are not even active in the student’s lives. Your thought on building knowledge by having conversations with adults is a wonderful idea. And the fact that these students do not have their parents is ok. This is the day and age where they can use so much technology whether it be skype, google chat, face time, or various other means to do so. I am not sure if your students have access to do so but that would be a great place to start.
As far as curriculum goes, we agree that what started as a means to hold teachers accountable became a restriction to the way students learn and in turn had a negative effect on education altogether. But the problem then becomes since no two students ever learn the same how will we ever be able to design in which to test our students by. Maybe there should not even be standardized tests to base it on, yet how can the education system hold teachers accountable to what and if students are actually learning.
Laurel
Laurel,
DeleteI think you misunderstood me. The point I was trying to make by stating that the difference between schools and games is the relevancy, is that most of the content taught in schools is just not relevant for most kids. I took all the way through Calculus in school. Do I remember most of it? No. I need to know how to use basic arithmetic, and algebra, maybe a bit of geometry. Do I regret taking it? No, but I do wish it had been more relevant to my every day life. Another example is History/Social Studies. My teachers tried to cram so many facts in my head, and do I remember any of them? No. I've learned some things since, like when I read a historical fiction book, I learn about the way things used to be, and because it seems relevant and important to me, I retain it. That was the point I was trying to make. Games make things relevant for kids, while the standard lecture, read the text book, take notes, watch this documentary, and take a test routine that I got as a kid, really don't.
Ashley,
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed reading the start of your blog post about your opinion about games. It really is about solving problems and applying information to life-like situations. When I teach my students about word problems I use real life situations to help the children learn how to solve these problems. They always enjoy this because I use their names. I am the type of learner who learns through doing things with my hands, and experimenting. If I had to teach my students through listening to lectures, and reading texts I would understand their lack of interest or motivation. There is more enjoyment in learning when it's hands on and things the children are exposed to all the time. This is how we prepare our students for the future, and for real life. They will be ready for the real world and live independently if we help them tackle real life problems.
You had mentioned about incorporating the children's cultures within the classroom in other ways besides through reading. I feel as though children also learn so much from one another about each of their cultures. I work in an international school and the children come from all over the world, and just by interacting with one another they learn so much. We also spend some time talking about the different cultures, and things they might do in their cultures that are different from one another. I also agree that it is hard for teachers to answer all of the “why” questions in a day. I have two classes one with 16 children, and the other with 15. However, they are all English language learners. I am constantly talking to them, and having them repeat after me. By the end of the day I am exhausted from talking and answering all the “why” questions that I can barely talk to my fiance about my day.
I do have a question about homeschooling. Why have you decided that you want to homeschool your children right away? I mean everyone has their own opinions about homeschooling I am just interested in your reasonings behind this.
Conversation is one of the most important things to have with your child when they are young. Children are like sponges and soak up so much that is happening around them. My parents always spoke Latvian around me when I was younger. It was like their “secret” language, but little did they know that I was starting to understand everything they were saying. Their Latvian conversations were no longer a secret, and I was able to understand everything they were saying. You can tell though which students parents don't spend enough time with them because they are the children that just want someone to talk to constantly because they don't get that attention at home. I was also lucky enough that my mom always took me to the public library, and I was able to read stories and pick out books that I wanted to read. It's just so important to follow your child's interests. It helps motivate them to want to pick up a book, or learn something new.
You ended your blog post talking about standardized testing, and I agree with you 100%. Standardized testing is screwing up our entire education system. I am grateful that currently I do not have to teach to the test, but I am moving back to the United States for the next school year and I don't want to fall into this trap and teach to the test. I feel like all of my time in college, and being educated how to teach and coming up with awesome and creative ideas for teaching will all go to waste because I wont' be able to use it all. Instead we need to follow our students interests. These are the things that will help them and make them successful learners. They will be more motivated to learn this way. I am glad that you had mentioned this and feel the same way. I just wish that someone would listen to us and our voices would matter!
Larissa
Larissa,
DeleteIt's precisely those standardized tests that have me wanting to homeschool my kids. I teach private violin/viola lessons, so I am very aware of just how different every child is. Some breeze through material others take months to get through, so children don't even play that material because they hate it and want something different. Teaching private lessons, I can treat each child like the individual they are, which can never happen as soon as you put them in a situation in which the primary learning taking place is in a group. It's why I'll never teach students solely in a group-class situation. I'm just not an effective teacher that way.
But anyway, back to the question of homeschooling. I see all these great teachers who want to do so much for the kids in their care, and who really could, except they're constrained by these standardized tests and having to teach to them. So then they have to give these students dried, worn out and tired curricula, treat every one the same, expect them all to achieve equally well on all areas, all to keep their own jobs. I just don't agree with that, on either side. I want my children to be challenged to achieve the best they can achieve, excel in areas they are naturally talented, while receiving specialized help in areas they need more help with. I know public school teachers try to do this, and they are able to offer these opportunities to some students, but with so many kids in their classes, they can't do it enough. Volunteers (like myself) come in occasionally and work with some kids, but it's not enough.
Whereas, if every child were not expected to pass the same test, then teachers could assign some students an extended, advanced learning project to work on independently, and teach a small group separately, or even have some students teach others, but only move ahead on content when the current content and skills are mastered. I'm not sure if this could be done with current class sizes (I know I certainly couldn't!), but maybe if we didn't have standardized tests, teachers wouldn't get burnt out as quickly, we'd have more of them, and class sizes could be lowered. It's also a matter of money, but without spending money on the tests, perhaps we could spend that on teachers.
Hi Ashley,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your work here! A compelling and smart post!
We agree on a lot of things. First off, I do have to admit, as a parent of young children, I am increasingly interested in the idea of home schooling. As the public school system does more and more to crush the love of learning among children (in some cases, or in far too many cases, at least), I think the decision to do this on your own is interesting. If we go back two hundred years, that is just how parents did it. (I think of Downton Abbey--Lady Mary Crawley certainly wasn't socially deprived because she didn't go to public school!).
I have very wonderful colleagues who are taking this route. But I think what really captured me about your post was the implicit message that all kids are home-schooled anyway. Parents, of course, are kids first and most important teachers. I think of what East Lansing public schools and the religious education they get on Sundays as extending what I do. But I would never write myself out of my sons' education. In some ways, I think it has made me a better and more laid back parent. I'm not stressing out about enrichment and more music, more language, more whatever in the schools. I realize that the school's curriculum is not a replacement for my own curricular work with my kids.
Of course, some kids don't have parents who can provide this--as you correctly note. That is where the great equalizer of public, democratically-focused public education is so important. I also value independence of spirit for my kids, and I think they can learn it in public schools if I am able to help them process they push for conformity they will feel in school (both intellectually and socially). We'll see . . .
I'm glad the Studio Schools and the Siskin article resonated with you. I totally agree, as I mentioned in my opening post, that apprenticeship is a form of education we should take more seriously. Being around adults doing adult-like things, having adult conversations--that is surely a model to help introduce children to a mature lifestyle earlier than we do now.
I'd like to raise more with you the purpose of music in the general curriculum. For those kids in concert bands, there is built-in accountability that we should preserve and value. What about those kids for whom performance is probably not likely to happen? What about my son in kindergarten, who has music once a week? What is the purpose of his music education, what products or performances should he and his teacher be held accountable for? I wonder if you think the standards you cite have much to offer us in this regard?
Thank you for your work!
Kyle
Dr. Greenwalt,
DeleteYour child has seasonal concerts for school, right? I remember singing at a variety of these growing up, or playing the xylophone or drums. There could be a twice yearly talent show, or something similar, in which children can participate as a solo or in a group, on their choice of instruments, either music they created (likely with the teacher's help), or other music that someone else already created. Or they could arrange a favorite pop or movie song for their choice of instruments - Harry Potter on a xylophone, bongo drum, and voice. Although I do think this would require music class more than once a week. I think I had music more than just once a week growing up, though it's hard to remember, now.
Ashley